Guide for Filipino Nurses | Live and Work in Canada

Tuesday, July 28, 2009

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This is a follow up entry to the June 2009 Nursing Board Licensure Exam Results. This is actually a guide for Filipino nurses who plan to live and work in Canada based on the actual experience of Mark Joseph V. Hernandez, a registered nurse, who is kind enough to share his experience for the benefit of other Filipino nurses planning to work in Canada.

My communication with Mark started when he asked for information about Canadian Tourist Visa application, as he is planning to write the Canadian Registered Nurse Examination (CRNE) and then later asked for assessment of his qualification under the Federal Skilled Worker program.

Marked graduated in 20007 and passed the Philippine Nurses’ Licensure Examination in the same year. Mark sent his resume last January 2009 and that time, his work experience is just less than one year. Thus, he is not yet eligible to apply. I told him to look for employers through online application, which he did.

Mark happily told me today that his Provincial Nominee Program Nomination Certificate from British Columbia have just arrived and he is now in the process of completing the documents for submission to Canadian Visa Office - Manila!

Now, he wants to share his experience and information he gathered in the process. Here it goes:

Let me share my insights on how to become a Nurse in Canada.

I would say that it is a two-fold process:

1) credentialing and licensure
2) employment and deployment

You need to satisfy these 2 processes to become an RN in Canada. You can have first, the employment and deployment, then have the credentialing and licensure afterwards, or you can have the other way around. It doesn’t matter as long as you satisfy these two-fold process, both were fine. You can have it simultaneously as well, which I personally recommend, to expedite the process and waste no time.

There are 2 categories of jobs in Canada. Regulated and Non-Regulated; Nursing is under the classification of Regulated jobs; thus, there is a regulatory board in each province which covers the jurisdiction on the practice of Nursing. For example:

• Manitoba – College of Registered Nurses of Manitoba (CRNM),

• Saskatchewan – Saskatchewan Registered Nurses Association (SRNA),

• Alberta – College and Association of Registered Nurses of Alberta (CARNA),

• British Columbia - College of Registered Nurses of British Columbia (CRNBC)

Here's the complete list of Provincial and Territorial Regulatory Bodies of Nurses in Canada for your reference.

To continue with Mark's insights...
They are responsible in regulating the practice of Nursing in their jurisdiction. Hence, you need a “go” signal from them or meet their requirements to practice Nursing in their respective location.

First, choose your target destination or Canadian province of your choice. Then access their Board of Nursing, and know their requirements for Internationally Educated Nurses (IENs). Upon completion of the requirements, forward your documents/credentials at the same time you may start searching for potential employers. So that while you’re waiting for your “go” signal, you are being productive of your waiting time.

By the way, each province mandates its own requirements; each province varies on their requirements so you better be careful with the details. Some of the provinces who are lenient on their requirements are: Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia, etc. Note also the timeline, so if you’re in a hurry, I would suggest to choose a province that you think there are less applicants and lenient requirements.

But the common denominators to become an RN among all the Provinces are:

1. BSN degree – hence they are requesting for BSN diploma and Official Transcript. Hence, there would be a form to be submitted to your School of Nursing, and the School would send it back directly to them.

2. RN license – so, you need to become RN in your place of origin. Hence, there would be a form to be submitted to PRC, then PRC would send them directly a verification that indeed you are a nurse here in the Philippines.

3. English/French Fluency – IELTS, TOEFL, CELBAN or French Assessment etc.. I would suggest taking these fluency assessments first before proceeding to the application, because they won’t process your application if it’s incomplete. There would be no “to follow” documents. Chances are, they would be returning your application and advise you to comply first with the requirements before submitting your application.

Upon submission of requirements, you would receive a feedback from assessment of your Board of Nursing. But, timeline varies in each province, so there’s no exact waiting time. It may be:

a) Yes, you’ve met all their requirements (the “go” signal)
b) Not yet, you need to comply with other requirements to commence your application (i.e SEC assessment, Bridging Program, etc.)
c) No, you did not meet their requirements

In my case, I received an eligibility to take the Canadian Registered Nurse Examination (CRNE) and an application for Interim Permit. Because, CRNE is only offered three times a year, you can work as a Nurse while waiting for your exam schedule, which would be an orientation to Canadian Healthcare System and good as review as well. Then once you passed the Canadian RN Exam, your Interim Permit would be automatically converted to Full RN Permit. The Interim Permit is good for a maximum of 9 months and renewable for a maximum of three times, because you can only take the CRNE to a maximum of 3 attempts.

That's Mark's insights for Credentialing and Licensure. Now, here's Mark's suggestion for employment.

For employment part, generally most of the employers are searched online if you want a direct hire process.

Generally, your WORK experience really matters. It will be your ticket to a job offer may it be direct hired or thru recruitment agencies.

For direct hiring, usually there are health authorities governing each province. They are the ones active in international recruitment and also I think they have specific program for internationally educated nurses. Such as:

Alberta – Alberta Health Services

Manitoba - Assiniboine Regional Health Authority

British Columbia – www.healthmatchbc.org
www.nursevancouver.com

I’m sorry; I’m not familiar with the other provinces. I suggest you may want to search the health authorities on your target destination and have the diligence to research on the hiring process for Internationally Educated Nurses (IENs).

Mark got his employer through www.healthmatchbc.org. Canada Jobs Portal could also be of help.

Mark also shared some insights on what to do after you received your job offer but since I have already written about it before, I opted to just make a summary.

The type of application you will file at the Canadian Visa Office depends on the nature of support that your employer will give you, to wit:
  • For Provincial Nominee Program, you need to have your nomination certificate from the Province before you may file your application at the Canadian Visa Office.


  • For Labor Market Opinion (LMO), you need to apply for Temporary Work Permit at The Canadian Visa Office. An LMO does not guarantee that you will be issued a work permit.


  • For Arranged Employment Opinion (AEO), you will have to submit your application first to Centralized Intake Office (CIO) for assessment. Only when you received the positive notice of Assessment that you may submit your application to Canadian Visa Office.


  • Many thanks to Mark for the insights. It will sure help Filipino Nurses planning to live and work in Canada!


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    19 comments:

    Anonymous said...

    thanks mark,.. may I ask if you are now working as an CRN in Canada? =)

    Anonymous said...

    my sister has been scheduled (and rescheduled several times) to write the CRNE here in Winnipeg, Manitoba but so far the Canadian Embassy in the Philippines (or the CIC) has denied her Tourist application 4 times already even when the CRNM has given her a supporting letter that she has to be in Manitoba to take the exam. Mark just got lucky. Wishing him all the best though.

    Apol said...

    ^ What was the reason provided by the visa officer?

    Few days ago, I assisted a client on filing her tourist visa application to write the CRNE in Winnipeg, Manitoba too. Let's see how it goes...

    Anonymous said...

    Hi!I also want to try what Mark did.If I dont have a working experience but I am a licensed nurse, Can I do the same process?Is it important to have a working experience when you apply to the employers(hospital)?How much is the estimated total cost when applying for tourist visa?thanx in advance

    Anonymous said...

    Gee whiz, I applied with the CRNBC(College of registered nurses of British Columbia. I got a letter of invitation from them in order for me to take the SEC. I forward this letter together with the rest of my documents to the Canadian embassy for me to get a TEMPORARY RESIDENT VISA but to my surprise they denied me a visa. I was disappointed mainly because the money spent for processing all of these just went down the drain. The bad thing about it is that you can't contest the grounds on which you were denied the visa.I think they reconsider things first again before denying outright a visa. Dont want to spend hard earned money on nothing..Quidos

    Anonymous said...

    ...i would like to apply in Canada too however it seems that the processing is very tough...I'm already done with my IELTS and i have almost 4yrs experience working in a tertiary hospital...i would like to know also if Mark is already working in Canada and how many months did he processed his papers?...thanks.

    Anonymous said...

    Checked on the link for jobs in Manitoba,, But it always states that they need an RN who is already A CRNM member.. wah!! how will I have that If I havent taken the exam yet..

    Anonymous said...

    ...guys,any idea what state in Canada offers easy and fast application for foreign nurses?...thanks.

    Anonymous said...

    hello, I live in Ontario and I need to upgrade my studies for 2 years before I can take the RN exams. They told me that other provinces let Filipino nurses to take the RN exams without upgrading. Do you know which provinces allow that?

    Anonymous said...

    I am currently in the process of trying to obtain a Visa to get to Canada to try and take the CRNE in Manitoba as of 2/28/2011. I applied for a tourist Visa to Canada because I do not have a job offer so I cannot apply for a work Visa. I have the invitation letter from the College of Nurses Manitoba and all other necessary paperwork for the visitor Visa. I mailed the package to Manila and it took right at 3 weeks to get the decision. I was turned down for the visitor Visa. :( Their reasons were: They felt my lack of family in Canada and no travel outside of the Philippines, that they thought I would not return to the Philippines once my 6 month Visa was up. YES of course I would not return if I pass the CRNE. The entire purpose for me going to CANADA is to take the CRNE, pass it, find an employer, convert my visitor Visa (TRV - temporary resident Visa) into a work Visa and after 2 years apply for permanent residence. I did state this was my plan but perhaps I should have. This is the same reason every other Filipino nurse seeking advice on how to go abroad to Canada on this site is trying to do. I really thought I would be approved since I had the invitation letter from the College of Nurses. I guess the embassy thought I wanted to travel 10,000 miles to Manitoba on a plane for roughly 18-20 hours one way, take a test for 3 or 4 days to see if I can pass it or not and come home after 6 months and thousands of dollars in expenses, time and tears! My sister and brother-in-law are currently looking into alternative Visa's or we may apply for another TRV if nothing else is possible. I will post again with the next failure or approval by the embassy application sent to Manila. I have been informed that I can submit the app online sntead of paper mail so the second app should take a little less time to process. Honestly, my brother-in-law feels that a valid job offer is the best chance of getting a Visa approved and he is checking any offers he can find online to try and get someone to submit me a valid offer. So far he emailed 11 offers, 2 of the employers said we are not hiring foreign nurses right now, 1 said you need to send us a resume and we will look at it. I will post again when I have a meaningful update.

    Irvin said...

    Hi, i will be going to canada this may 2011 as an immigrant. I am a nurse here in the philippines with almost two years experience. i would like to know if I apply for CRNE in the province of British Columbia, would they require me further education or bridging education or just allow me to take the CRNE because our BSN program here in the Philippines is sufficient or comparable to that of canada? Can anyone answer my question?
    Irvin

    Anonymous said...

    irvin did you find out the answer for yourself? pls share.

    Anonymous said...

    hi, im a registered nurse here in the philippines. I got my permanent residence visa recently. I plan to go to Ontario, Canada before October. How do I apply for CNRE? please help me. I don't know what to do.

    Anonymous said...

    HI everyone,I just arrived here in Manitoba on July 5 ,2011 as an Immigrant.I am a nurse by profession with 20 years of experience in the hospital overseas.I was advised by my friend to take the LPN exam first before taking the CRNE. I processed everything before I came here including the TOEIC test (english). I have also an access to the web to follow up the status of my application which I thought it was reliable.They received all the documents needed,In short Iam ready to take the examination but to my surprised ,I have to take the english exam which CELBAN and IELTS is accepted. Now ,I am trying register for the test and there is a significant increase in the band score required.I hope And pray that i could overcome all these!!

    Anonymous said...

    did mark undergo SEC assessment and bridging program in BC?

    Unknown said...

    hi mark, im currently living in the US but because of the recession and for having a hard time for me to pass the NCLEX-RN exam here, me and my husband were trying to migrate in Canada to seek for a better opportunity, what is the process it takes for me to use my Pphilippine RN license to work in Canada and im already a US citizen?

    Anonymous said...

    repost:"hi, im a registered nurse here in the philippines. I got my permanent residence visa recently. I plan to go to Ontario, Canada before October. How do I apply for CNRE? please help me. I don't know what to do."

    may i know how you get ur permanent residence visa?

    Anonymous said...

    hi! im a registered nurse but uunfortunately i dont have clinical experienced since i passed the board exam..i graduate 1992 and passed the examination the same year.Would it be possible for me to enter canada under skilled worker?what are the chances?

    Anonymous said...

    Hi! Thanks for the great info. Im an RN and currently working for 5 years now. I have an application for an immigrant visa and my concern is the ways and means to become an RN in Vancouver. If you have any info about my concern it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

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